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Bob C

in this, emergent brand would be lipton, with alt.worship being chai

then again, maybe we are all lentils ?

tony sheng

Your ideas so resonate with me. I've been a volunteer youthworker for about 15 years and had a major paradigm shift after I took the Perspectives course. The course focused on World Missions, versus anything to do with youth ministry. Same kind of thing - thinking about mission and culture brought into focus stuff about youth ministry. The studies in the course changed everything I thought about youth ministry beforehand.
Great post! Looking forward to those articles.

lillylewinl

thanks jonny!
i heartily agree that due to cultural shifting, we must get out and relearn just where folks really are...not just create stuff we "think"folks will like...and getting out of the building and going where people are, not expecting folks to come to us...even if we are creating stuff that is way outside the regular church box!
trying to work out coming to colorado...
tell jenny and steve hi from the lewin clan. lilly

jonny

thanks guys... lilly be great if you could be in colorado :-)

Phil

That Vincent Donavan quote has really stuck with me over the past couple of years, pretty much since you quoted it to us at CYM.

The thing that just struck me about it, literally just as I was reading it on here again, was the bit about having courage.

I'm currently feeling a bit directionless in my youth work - possibly in life as well but thats a whole other thing - maybe I need to reflect on the idea of having courage to step out and take those risks. Maybe I just need to get off my ass and do it.

durb

As a long time youth worker I would agree with your observations (although I do like "Purpose Driven Youth"...as I feel it provides a good framework with a lot of flexibility). I meet monthly with a group of mission represntatives, mission pastors, and missionaries, and I find I learn a great deal from interacting with them that applies to youth ministry. It's also encouraging to learn about the creative ways people find to share the gospel.

Richard Passmore

Great to see, Donovan coming back around. I posted the extract from Off the beaten track exploring the quote and tacking a bit more the other day, if your interested.

D. Goodmanson

Thanks for this quote, "Insights from cross-cultural mission will help us do ministry in our own cities, communities and networks." It reminds me of the impact Newbigin had when he returned from cross-cultural mission. I pray that many of us can strip the cultural traditional backage of church and be the church.

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