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Carole

Thanks, Jonny. Your reports have really got me thinking...

Mark

It's nice to see some much common ground, though of course one wonders what the words might actually mean in action? I'm struck by Kendricks call for innovators, it seems to me that the innovate "worship" has happened outside the mainstream understanding of "worship" i.e. it has been in the liturgical, symbolic and 'alternative' traditions, whereas the mainstream evangelical expressions haven't really changed since I was a lad - the sections of mor/folk/rock singalongs have just got longer!

It has struck me recently that we are at last coming out of the NOS shadow, we are seeing some highly creative young and leftfield worship/meditation (we tend to refer to our "worship" as meditation in response to the compartmentalisation of worship, action, prayer, life etc.) and the suspicion that went with everything 'alternative' is dissipating. (e.g. communities like The Garden) - Obviously this is a sphere that Proost is aware of and encouraging... and the internet is making it possible for creatives to get their 'stuff' out there for others to see, use and be inspired by.

I do think (as you say in your final point) there needs to be a shift away from 'production' to 'creativity' - the process of innovation and creation being more important than any product at the 'end' - taking "worship" out of solely the domain of experts and professionals - making it truly liturgical (the work of the people not just the professionals) - focusing on learning, struggle, participation and not on slickness, performance etc.

One question - what did Edwards mean by to "close the gap between saturday night and sunday morning" - presumably he doesn't mean having a Kebab & 10 pints of Lager instead of Bread and Wine? Seriously these things are easy to say, but what do they mean and how are they being encouraged by the people who say them?

David Derbyshire

Thanks Jonny. I particularly like the comment about old and new. I think we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Instead of saying, ‘Your style of worship is no good we're going to do it our way’, we can bring new ways of engaging God along side the old and, who knows, we may find the old ways infused with new meaning too.

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    where i come across creative ideas, liturgies, movies, music tracks, service outlines or anything that strikes me, i add them as worship tricks. i started these in april 2002 when i first began blogging and they have built up over the years so that i am now on the third series. this has proved a pretty popular feature of the blog.

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