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derek jones

Really helpful Jonny, thanks for this - great reminder to all those training/deaconed/priested (and episcopate!) as to the fundamental of what signed up to - personally also really struggle that not all priests are actually being pioneering (even more so given what you've highlighted and what I heard at ordination service in sheffield this morning!). I sometimes question though whether ordaining distinct pioneers is the best response, or whether for colleges and bishops to be pushing (and enabling?) all clergy to be a bit more pioneering in both their own and surrounding areas might be better goal? (Am I being a bit overly optimistic?)- would really welcome your thoughts - half way through training myself at cranmer (not on pioneer pathway but have been questioned why not, my general response is the belief that all priests should be pioneering) at the moment. My usual go to person for thoughts on this has just gone off to start her curacy so thoughts would be much appreciated!

hope you can make sense of my ramblings, blessings, derek

jonny

Derek thanks for this questin. I am busy today but will come back to this. Do you ,mind if I post your comment as a post and respond in that way? I think a lot of people might be interested in this...

Eric Elnes

Precisely! And to your excellent points, I would add this: http://huff.to/28QH818

jonny

eric great to hear from you - been a long time since our paths crossed. glad to see you are keeping dreaming! hope all's well

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