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Thanks for that Jonny it has sparked some great thoughts in me, I will look forward to hearing you at Inclusive Church.


cool... how is your new adventure?... i'll catch up with you there

Jen Lemen

can't wait to hear more.

John Davies

Have you explored much the idea of Christ as Trickster? Plenty of material there I suggest....

Dana Ames

From my limited knowledge of Hinduism, it seems to me that Shiva would qualify as a trickster in that worldview. Is it fair to say this, or am I way off the track?

This fascinates me too. I have wondered about this character ever since I heard about him in Native American myths. I live in a community with consciousness of and respect for the local Native culture, and I see this as a point of contact for deeper understanding.

Are you going to publish this anywhere, for those of us who can't get to England soon? :)

Dana Ames


my notes are not really worth publishing! the best bet is to get lewis hydes book. or do a search on tickster on the internet and there is a ton of stuff. you are probably right about shiva but i don't know enough to say...


Just on Christ as Trickster... I've tried to cover that in my book, The Complex Christ. It's basically all tied up with the way Christ crosses 'dirt boundaries'. Hyde talks a lot about how Tricksters play with dirt, but end up bringing heaven and earth closer by doing so.

If you'd like to discuss it further, there's a discussion board on the book at www.thecomplexchrist.com

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