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Paul Fromont

Hi Jonny, thanks for this. I'll pass it on as part of an attempt to get our disocese thinking more creatively about the issues of change etc. We have Alan Jamieson here on Friday / Saturday (27/28) and I've offered some suggestions in relation to topics for a Friday afternoon session. I've always imagined (perhaps romantically) that a younger country like ours should be inherently more flexible etc. However, this isn't my experience. So, would be interested in your ongoing observations, news of successes etc in relation to this topic. Peace.


That's really exciting jonny...just what a slightly battered curate who spent the morning reflecting on her failures in mission needed to read :-)

Fernando Gros

this is great stuff and really encouraging to hear! back in 01/02 I was helping my local anglican church in Fulham work on some new mission and worship initives for young adults. it is a long story, but every spare bit of cash was quickly diverted into clergy salaries and building redevelopment funds. morever, the thikning and planning was very short term (e.g., it was impossible in May to get commitments for things that would happen 4 months later in September). i believe there was an interest in allowing things to happen, but not a lot of will to make it happen.


that's well cool to here
I used to work in a little parish church in a wee village just south of lichfield about 18 months ago when they we're just putting together they whole missiony document thing.
I'm still in contact with my old vicar from there who was legend. He embodied permission and the stance of Old leadership with new in that he thought for myself and my budy at church council meeting allowing us to do things outside the church with there permission rather than without it and whenever we got shot a accusation of not bringing enough young people into the church for them he back us up saying that the older gen never come to our youth groups, cells meetings or hang out with us on the street corners playing B-ball and that that was just ast much church for us and our little kiddie crew as the 9:00 1662 service.

good to hear they're still going strong Although I fear they may still simiilar problems to the old fogies up here in Durham diocese in what they should do in the rural are's wher they are too few clerge with too little missional training and too many parish's to look after to get out there mixing it up

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